NA 8.0 - Level EXP Adjustment Discussion

[Rhap Sodos]

Feel free to ask any questions, or share any feedback you have over the new leveling adjustment system. A couple important things to keep in mind:

1. The amount of EXP to reach level cap [120] has not changed.

2. The amount of JP/SP you character receives via leveling has not changed.

3. You may choose to have your character remain at it's current level on "EXP Buyback System".

4.

8.0 TXP Table

5. For reference, the old TXP table...

7.0 TXP Table

[Rhapsody]

I'm math dumb. Is there a formula or something we can use to figure out what TXP is what level?

[cntrstrk14]

Yes there is! I updated the TXP table to reflect the changes. You can find it here...

8.0 TXP Table

And in case you need it, here is the old TXP table...

7.0 TXP Table

[wolfnin]

Seeing as it's 3am...I can't do math at this time, nor does my brain function. But, I do have a question about this whole "buyback" system and EXP. Seeing as most of our higher level characters will be loosing levels, if we choose to retain our character's level, would we just edit the exp to the appropriate amount? Or would we have to follow the exp buy back system. Also, what about the our stats, jutsu points, and skill points? Would we have to reset them, then as we level back up we add more? Or would we be allowed to keep them the way they are now and only exp and level would be affected?

[dowhatnow]

3. You may choose to have your character remain at it's current level on "EXP Buyback System".

4. 8.0 TXP Table

How do these work if characters are currently engaged in threads and/or haven't yet been given EXP?

[Azure]

Wolf: You will keep everything as it is until you're able to reach the "new" level, then you can do whatever you want. If you have a request to remodel your character, please bring it up with staff and we'll figure it out.

Jim: Considering this will be the new Txp and is retroactive, when you gain experience will not affect things, though I see what you're saying. As this is released now, anyone in the Chuunin exams will not level their character to the new level and THEN progress to the new table.

[cntrstrk14]

Just to clarify a bit more...

Wolf: If you choose to do the "Buyback" option (which I can see most people doing) you change nothing on your sheet. Your TXP stays the same, your JP stays the same, your SP stays the same, everything. The only difference is that (and I'm going to use the example of a level 30 character here again) your TXP of 7,000 is not ACTUALLY the TXP needed to be level 30. So you will gain EXP at a +30% rate until you "fill up" your TXP to 12,000 which is the needed amount for level 30 under the new rules.

Let me use an analogy here. Imagine that the EXP you gain is a liquid that you poured into a beaker you had. However full the beaker is shows what level you are. What we just did was changed the shape of the beaker, but we did not take any of your "EXP liquid" away. All you did was take your EXP from the old beaker and pour it into the new beaker with a different shape. However, in this new beaker, your EXP does not reach up to the same line as it did previously.

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The image on the left is the old beaker, and the image on the right is the new beaker. The red line on the new beaker represents your level if you choose to use the "Buyback" system. Basically, we freeze you character at that point on the beaker until you fill it back up to the line. Once you reach the line you can continue leveling as normal!

Jim: Yes, this is active IMMEDIATELY and applies to characters in all threads on the site. As of the posting of the news article, all characters are considered to be under the new TXP rules. So, if you chose to do the "Buyback" for your EXP, any Experience gained since the posting of the news article may have the +30% applied to it.

[Leon]

Okay so if we do the EXP buy back system I assume that means that we cannot gain any levels until we completly pat off the experience to our current level.

EDIT: Also if we choose to go back to our original levels do we get to reset our stats?

Edited March 30, 2012 by Leon

[cntrstrk14]

1. Yes

2. In a way, yes. You remove stats equal to the levels you gain and you can replace them as you level again. You will also have to remove JP and SP you gained along with any skills as well.

[Major]

So this boils down to staying at your current level and getting a pretty good experience bonus, or being able to semi-respec your character. Not really a question, just saying how I like the choices here. Gives something to think about. I was hesitant at first, but I like this a lot and agree with the reasoning behind it.

[cntrstrk14]

To confirm, yes, those are the two choices.

[1Q84]

do you only get the exp bonus if you chose to stay at current level? for example if i decided i wanted to let my character go back to 17 or whatever and lose all my stats and skills and techniques would i still get a 30% bonus to exp until i hit level 30 again? or is that option only available for those who are sticking with their 'current' level?

[cntrstrk14]

The +30% EXP is only available for those who choose to keep their current level.

EXP Buyback Perks

- +30% to all EXP until you return to your level's required EXP

- Very easy to transition, minimal sheet changes.

Lowering Level Perks

- Partial stat revamp.

- Better possibility to show role play growth over time.

[Full-metal Dragon]

Alright so I'm just getting back on this and Initially thought of doing the new way "straight up" since I haven't used the guy in like a yr, wasn't really a big deal.  But, by this it seems all that person gets is a  high five for doing so, with no bonuses whatsoever, because really, lowering stats in certain areas isn't worth it to anyone anywhere, unless you were to get a bonus to go back to them.  So I guess my question is, why aren't the ones choosing to be a lower level getting a bonus?  If anything they're the one's with the true struggle, the other way is pretty much a non-drop in level, stats, or anything else, with a bonus to get you back to where you were. I mean I could be entirely wrong as I don't know where all of the topics are on this since I just got back.  But as far as what I've read, you can either go back in level and change things with no bonus,( which isn't that cool unless your into seeing your character getting weaker)or go back in level and change the level on your sheet with no real consequence other than your next couple of RP outings go to levels you previously had.

Edited February 3, 2013 by KameKaze

[Kouta]

The bonus to doing so is to get to re-spec your character. That is rare on NA, if ever done. So for some of us who started with our character years ago, that character may have started as a genjutsu lord, but slowly morphed to a tai/gen hybrid, then to a tai user exclusively. Well for us, this option is great, because we get to go back and re-spec, so we are no longer wasting points in Genjutsu if we don't use them. We also get to re-spec SKILLS, which anyone can tell you is a goldmine of a chance. Invented a new tai style over the last couple years? Or what if you took Brahma the Creator for that Gen plan you had? Now you can swap those skills out for each other.

The other "bonus" is the intent of the level adjustment: You get to spend more time enjoying your early levels. Trust me, they can be outrageously fun to play through. Once you hit chunnin and jounin, your character will resent being asked to sweep a library with two of his friends. A genin would leap at this chance. Not to mention early level training builds character relationships that can make your later levels way more fun.

So don't think of it as "Do I wanna keep my stuff and get a bonus to get back on track" or "Do I wanna be forced to level up again." Think of it as "Did I get everything I needed out of my lower levels?" and "Do I have a new plan from when I started and need to respec my stuff?"

[cntrstrk14]

Kouta just about nailed this question.

[Full-metal Dragon]

Alright I see it as written. For me I guess I was seeing it in a different light since I didn't have a high level character really nor many stat points to redistribute. Thanks for the reply though.