Looted Weapon

[Seigen]

Kurokobura (Black Cobra)

Type: Medium

Level: 20

Abilities:

- Defend; Rank 1

-Parry; Rank 1

- Razor Edge [+20% base damage]

- Unique

Effects:

-Snake’s Fang

-Snake’s Fang

When the wielder rolls a "block" result against any weapon-based attack, the weaopn stands a 25% chance of breaking. Otherwise it is disarmed and requires a Main Phase to pick up (Setup Phase if the attacker has the "Gatherer" skill)

Description: A pair of sai that have been customized by Momo to perfection. The weapons have three ‘horns‘ on both blades, the middle extending past the two that surround it. Much like old fashioned sai’s, when coming into contact with another weapon, a quick flick of the wrist and a bit of pressure can break a blade in two. The weapon is as graceful as it is deadly, with the symbol of two flaming dragons wrapping around the hilt, their mouth’s spewing the silver blades forwards.

Edited August 14, 2008 by Hitsugaya Toushirou

[Eechi-go]

Sinner:.

[Azure]

The effect should be more like when the sword comes in contact with the opponent's weapon. Just hitting the person doesn't make that much sense and really; the only times the weapons come in contact with each other is blocking or Parry.

[Eechi-go]

The idea of the weapon was for each attack the user made, they'd attempt to slip it between their weapon, and continuing to strike, like the actual style is preformed.

If you feel it needs to be changed, however, that's okay with me.

[Azure]

I think it does. Slipping between the weapon sounds more like negating 'Parry'.

[Eechi-go]

It's a little diffrent in actual combat, where both sides are striking one another with weapons, it makes this style easier to use. By NA standards, rarely do swordfights ensure.

Alright, once he changes that I'll approve.

[Seigen]

Fixed.

[Warr]

30% chance to destroy a weapon or render it unusable?

That seems a bit high to me, and more so as it says 'one weapon the opponent is wielding is destroyed'. That makes it so in basic loophole-ness, if I was wielding Ensui and a custom kunai which had 'parry' on it, and parried with the kunai, then you could instead render Ensui unusable for the rest of the battle with a 30% chance. The way you have it written, it says 'comes in contact' which could be abused as you could simply target their weapon and such, instead of them parrying or blocking with it. Further still, the way this ability is written, you could -easily- abuse it by adding parry and block on your own blade and blocking/parrying then destroying your opponent's weapon. I probably wouldn't feel so strongly about the chances and such, if it was not for the fact that with the fact you are -destroying- a weapon and not simply disarming it from your opponent, if they didn't abuse the 'indestructible' weapon ability.

Also makes little sense for such weapons to be able to break/disarm weapons of the 'large' size category, simply with the fact they are sai, and unless they were extremely strong and the large weapons extremely weak, their metal touching the metal/wood of another weapon wouldn't necessarily shatter it. Further still, you don't describe the exact method of the destruction, and if the weapon is shattered, then parts of it could still be salvaged and it could be rebuild/repaired.

[cntrstrk14]

then parts of it could still be salvaged and it could be rebuild/repaired.

That's how all weapons work now already. Anything that is 'destroyed' in battle can be repaired for $20. It's been like that since we changed Indestructible to include what he just stated in his ability. (You don't need to state the bit about indestructible.)

[Warr]

That's how all weapons work now already. Anything that is 'destroyed' in battle can be repaired for $20. It's been like that since we changed Indestructible to include what he just stated in his ability. (You don't need to state the bit about indestructible.)

Forgot that, actually. One of the few things I have forgot.

But yeah, HT, incase you don't want to rewrite it yourself, here;

-Snake's Fang

When the users blade comes in contact with the enemies weapon via an opponent using a parry or a defend to block this weapon, they must roll a d10. If a 1, 3 or 5 is rolled, the weapon the opponent is wielding to parry/defend is destroyed. If the weapon in question has the ability ‘Indestructible', it cannot be used for the remainder of battle.

I still feel that 30% chance of that is a bit much; especially if the weapon with 'indestructible' is somehow unable to be used for the remainder of the battle, instead of an opponent being able to use a setup phase or something to grab it.

[Seigen]

Oh. Thanks Warr. Well, its fixed now.

[Warr]

I feel the percentage is still a bit too much, and much as I said to Skittz about his trident, I also feel that this weapon (weapon in the statistic sense because it's not two seperate weapons bought each by themselves, and also because they are used in unison) should not be able to disarm weapons of the 'large' size, if the opponent is of the same rank or higher rank than the user's weapon, or exactly as I said to skittz.

[Hardcore Skittlez]

1.) Sai were never intended to destroy weapons. Where you/eechi/whoever cooked this one up, I'll probably never know.

2.) Traditional sai are neither bladed nor have a pointed tip. The tips were rounded, and it was used mostly as a nonlethal weapon. That is not to say that it couldn't be used lethally, just, it wasn't too terribly often seen. Considering that daggers and swords (Tanto and katana, respectively) were sharper and took a fair amount less skill to wield effectively, it is obvious why the sai was rarely used lethally.

Now that those to points have been displayed, you should really edit this so that it only disarms opponents by catching their weapons in the sai's prongs, and then making a wide arc to pull it out of their hands. Statistically/logically, this would mean that you would have to parry one of the opponent's blows.

And as per Warr's point about the large weapons... That would normally only apply to polearms, big broadswords, and other hard to catch (In the sai's prongs) weapons. But considering that you'd have to be incredibly specific on that case, Warr is correct. You'll need to limit this ability's use against large weaponry.

[abeiros]

I know that sai weapons are easily used to break the opponent holding of a weapon such as a sword, it wouldnt be a miracle if it was modified to destroy it, claiming that the user had enough strength to do it. Anyhow, this seems more of a legendary weapon, perhaps if the staff didnt make overpowered items, this wouldnt happen. HT, I think you glady settle for a large sum about of money instead of this weapon, right?

Edited August 13, 2008 by Apple

[Seigen]

Yup

[Hardcore Skittlez]

Apple, Don't be butt-hurt that HT gets another strong weapon. Remember, he can only wield one at a time. Also, Staff doesn't make overpowered weapons. Kouta and I do. It's as simple as that.

And, no, Sai don't break swords. Give me a link as to where you got this information, nao.

[Seigen]

Actually, after asking cntstrk awhile ago, I can wield both my Katanas at the same time. As for the weapon, its not for me. Like I'd want some sai. I looted it for someone.

[Eechi-go]

Apple, Don't be butt-hurt that HT gets another strong weapon. Remember, he can only wield one at a time. Also, Staff doesn't make overpowered weapons. Kouta and I do. It's as simple as that.

And, no, Sai don't break swords. Give me a link as to where you got this information, nao.

This was rather something I learned from one of my teachers in school a few years ago. There are some sia that have elongated prongs in which could hook the katana within and with enough of pressure within the flick of the user's wrist, they could break the blade it two.

Now, considering what most of the weapons in NA are made from (being chakra induced and whatnot) I also believe that this could be done. This is -obviously- not traditional, since it wouldn't do any damage, IE; Kunai, Shuriken, ect. These Sai were heavily modified by the user so she could break weapons quickly and easily, so they are heavily chakra induced and very -very- sharp.

[Maelstrom]

Indeed. As long as you have a sword that can break away into a thousand cherry blossoms, you can have a sai that can break a sword.

[Seigen]

How about this..if the wielder rolls a block result in a weapon based melee(Basic Attack), the weapon involved in the attack is disarmed and has a 25 percent chance of breaking.

[PhantasyIV]

Most martial arts weapons started as tools - the sai not excluded. However, don't let Raphael (TMNT) hear you say that. His were always sharp in the cartoon and the toys. Arguable in the movie.

EDIT: I've only watched the live action movies

Edited August 14, 2008 by PhantasyIV

[Warr]

How about this..if the wielder rolls a block result in a weapon based melee(Basic Attack), the weapon involved in the attack is disarmed and has a 25 percent chance of breaking.

Sounds fair.

[Seigen]

I meant weapon based melee in general, not just basic attacks.

[Warr]

I understood.

[Seigen]

Edit.Nvm

Edited August 14, 2008 by Hitsugaya Toushirou