Rei Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 -spoilers for 370- Wait...there's dark and light Charka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-metal Dragon Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I think he's about to fight pain using a gamabunta with the dark nine tails' chakra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cntrstrk14 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Jiraya is going to fight with his own power, he was allowing the seal to leave his possession in case he died. Tobi is Obito. If anything, he found the power of Madara, or more likely, was possessed by it like some Orochimaru technique. He is still Obito though. Dark and Light chakra may only exist in demons, it may not exist in humans. Where does the first come in? It says the first defeated Madara at the valley, not the other way around D: I don't think Kishimoto is creative enough to have the Madara actually of won, taken his body and posed as him for awhile. Even so, what would that accomplish? The first was dead by the time of the attacks. Plus, there could have been witnesses to the battle at the valley, confirming the victor. And FMD, what 'guy' are you talking about? I hope you are considering saying that this hack of a story is the work of TWO bumbling idiots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilon Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 (edited) It will be interesting to see how Pain measures up to Jiraya. I also can't wait to see just what Pain can do when it comes down to the wire. Edited September 15, 2007 by Rilon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eechi-go Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 This chapter perplexed me, and also made a noobish theory on another website come true... That displeases me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozma Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Tobi is Obito. If anything, he found the power of Madara, or more likely, was possessed by it like some Orochimaru technique. He is still Obito though. Well, we already know that the 'mind' belongs to Madara, but I suppose he could still be using Obito's body like when Orochimaru took over that Grass ninja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cntrstrk14 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Well, we already know that the 'mind' belongs to Madara, but I suppose he could still be using Obito's body like when Orochimaru took over that Grass ninja. How do we know this? The closest we got was when he stated that he 'Has the power of' Uchiha Madara. I heard many translations said that he directly was him, but to accurate translation was different to my understanding. Quoted from Chapter 364 page 18; "The Sharingan's Power... My Power... Uchiha Madara's Power..." Why would he refer to himself in the third person? It seems much more like he acquired the power of the man rather than he is the man. I think it is much more likely that Tobi is in control of Madara's power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Regardless of theories, this development is lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozma Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 How do we know this? The closest we got was when he stated that he 'Has the power of' Uchiha Madara. I heard many translations said that he directly was him, but to accurate translation was different to my understanding.Quoted from Chapter 364 page 18; "The Sharingan's Power... My Power... Uchiha Madara's Power..." Why would he refer to himself in the third person? It seems much more like he acquired the power of the man rather than he is the man. I think it is much more likely that Tobi is in control of Madara's power. Well from what I heard, that translation was a mistake. Apparently in the original Japanese he says 'kono Uchiha Madara no chikara ga,' which translates to 'the power of I, Uchiha Madara.' I don't read moonrunes so I'm not sure about that, but it seems to be the consensus. Regardless of theories, this development is lame. Yes. I can't even remember why I started reading it again, I thought I stopped about 2 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-metal Dragon Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Maybe he can jump from mind to mind like Oro but better. The Pain Jiraiya battle will be amazing, nd I just can't wait. Hopefully next week one of the battles start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I really don't mind this plot development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-metal Dragon Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I think it is quite good for making you think, and wanting to come back to it to figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaos Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I think Tsunade got crap-handed, I mean with Orochimaru spitting up snakes and Jiraiya spitting up frogs...she's left with slugs... that can't leave a good taste in your mouth. I figure that Pein/Pain and Naruto are half brothers (through the mum) and the whole eye thing he's got going on is a doujutsu (probably something that rivals the sharingan. Naruto will develop it soon enough. In time for/During the finale. I'm kinda hoping I'm wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Skittlez Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Just read 371. Taking an odd turn of events. Pain being the Fourth? Yeah, we suspected that much already, but Konan? "You've grown into one hell of a woman"? The chapter left so much just hanging... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miso Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 <.< apparently Jiraiya was Konan's sensei. Apparently Pein is not the fourth. Apparently Tobi is not Obito, cause that is just stupid. Apparently the Uchiha theory is correct, as you can see Tobi sitting on Madara's head and speaking the words about Sasuke that he had spoke. -hint- Hawk(in manga), Crow(in theory), similar or what? Theory comming true or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Skittlez Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Uchiha theory is...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miso Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 you have been missing for quite some time then. o.o Uchiha Theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigen Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Pein could just be the other person in the three man squad along with Konan and the forth? And miso..we've seen that the theory was coming true like..7 chapters ago..no need to remind us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cntrstrk14 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jiraiyageninteam.jpg Tobi is Obito. Pein could be that last guy, though he seems kind of random and not important. Pein just showed that he can transfer bodies, so maybe the first one isn't his real appearance. He could be that last guy on the left. Oh, and Konan looks a lot like the middle one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenji-San Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Or he could be the FOURTH. Dun Dun DUUUNNNNNN!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arashi Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 OR that picture could be from something they only added to the anime, and therefore not cannon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cntrstrk14 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 They still would have needed the author's permission to make it if it wasn't in the manga. They can't just declare team members without his permission. But seriously, The fourth was an Uchiha, making Naruto and Sasuke really like brothers. And Kakashi is actually a Hyuuga. And Obito is the Third, he died. Sorry. Snape kills Orochimaru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilon Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 371 is out... I'm rather unhappy with it, honestly. Perhaps the version I saw was missing a few pages, but how did every single one of Pain's piercings change in the span of... five minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Sharingan hax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizuki Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Man, you made me think a new chapter was out. This is the one from last week. Also, he says straight out that he "got this body out" specifically to handle and intruder. He can switch bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...